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... for social skills.
Yeah. <___<'
I don't know what's the deal with people lately. On the one hand you have the lot that thinks that the screen between them and the world out there is their god-given excuse to act like a total prick. Aka Troll: been around for quite some time, some rather subtle, most... not so much.
But lately the other extreme ticks me off even worse. On that end of the scale we have:
1) The people that think commenting your picture/exchanging 2 words on a likeminded topic validates the offer of: "I can haz friend, no?"
Do you do that in Real-Life as well? Walking up to someone, engaging them in conversation and then just springing a "Hey, lets be friends!!!" on them? I know, the internet blurs the line on that a little, simply because you hardly ever get to meet you internet affiliates (and on an international platform like DA, even less so), but is a LITTLE breathing space too much to ask?
I befriend people on account of running into them in the same group/fandom/thread several times, who's art, opinions, stories etc I like and vice versa. Not on a question asked 2 seconds into what might have turned into a halfway decent conversation.
2) The goody-two-shoes who thinks that EVERYTHING is their goddamn business. Even if they don't know you all that well, or not at all.
Don't get me wrong here, I'm always grateful for (grounded) advice on my artwork and how to improve it. From some people I even specifically ASK advice, because I think they can help me, or simply because I admire their style/talent. I can even handle flames/trolling (in the "Yeah, whatever..." *reblog* - way) and make it a policy to not erase any of the traffic going on in my comment section/journal/... They're just too much fun to read and mock.
But why are my (potential) legal problems of any concern to a person who happened to stumble across my art and doesn't even bother to properly read the disclaimer/copyright section???

People, honestly. If I don't know/like/care about you: Mind your own bznz, why don't you?
There are one or two more categories of people that are a total turn-off to me personally or in general (like those who take themselves and their fandom/ship way WAY too seriously , thus spoiling what could have been a good companionship), but that is for a different entry.

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:iconblenderlager:
I really like your art. I assume you are a nice person. Let us be friends. x)

Of course in the real life no one would come up to you and say: "hey let us be friends", after the first conversation you had. However I think that the word "friends" on the internet has not quite the same meaning it has in real life. At least in my opinion it is more like a "positively remarked person". in real life, I would never call someone a friend because I had some "good conversations" with him or her, but on the internet a good conversation is ... more than you should expect. If I "like" the person or more precisely had a positive impression of him/her I save them on my friend-list. On the internet it is less likely to meet the same person multiple times unless you have some kind of bond. Even if it is just a one-sided "friendship" whish is saved in a firend-list. And, of course they are not real friends but let us be honest. i do not need a friend-list to know who my real friends are ;)
But i do agree with you on the other points.

To cut a long story short, if someone you barely know, asks you to be friends it might be a matter of definition and if someone starts flaming for no reason, as you said, just ignore them.

And if you should end up writing another rant-text that is good as well.

At least I did enjoy reading it so much that I did bother to write my opinion regarding that topic (Even though I kind of lost track of the topic, ending up confusing myself with my bad english...)

btw. it is a shame that the rant tags are not implemented in the HTML-language yet.They would be quite useful :)

Und jetzt bemerke ich das ich auch einfach hätte deutsch schreiben können...
Egal so können sich wenigstens auch andere durch mein Englisch quälen *böses Lachen*
Nun ja, Auch dies, ist meiner Meinung nach, eine Sache der Höflichkeit.
In einem andern Land spreche ich, so gut ich kann, die einheimische Sprache.
Im Internet, welches der gesamten Welt offensteht, nutze ich so gut ich kann die Weltsprache.

Dann wünsche ich dir noch liebe Grüße und deinen verdienten Fame auf DA ;)
Hatt dieser sich denn, nach nun mehr als 3 Jahren wie ich gerade sehe, blicken lassen, der ganze Fame ? xD
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:iconjien-chan:
Wie gesagt, ich sehe das mit "Freunde" etwas anders, und fühle mich extrem unwohl dabei, wenn Leute die ich nicht/kaum kenne mich anschreiben und fragen, ob wir "Freunde sein können". (Kommt in derselben Skala etwas unterhalb von Typen, die einen innerhalb der ersten Unterhaltung fragen, ob man einen Freund hat, bzw. ob man einen brauchen könnte.)
Ich finde es einfach unangebracht. Entweder es ergibt sich, weil man sich kennenlernt (soweit das übers Internet möglich ist) und sympatisch ist, oder halt nicht.
Ich bin da altmodisch ^^;
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~testelse Dec 21, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
I know what you mean for the part being friends with just one sentence. I often have it on YT that someone want me as a friend I never spoke to. and have no connection to.
argh bad English today.
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:iconjien-chan:
That's exactly what I mean.
You exchange a few words and then, all of a sudden, they go: "I like you, lets be friends!". Without ever having seen me face to face, just based on a conversation of maybe 2 to 5 sentences.
That's when I usually reply: "Sorry, but I don't know you well enough to apply such strong labels here. You seem like a nice person, but I don't make friends just like that."

I hope that does not put you off talking with me (especially since we might meet in May^^), it's just how I roll.
I'm not a friend of randomly accumulating friends, just to raise your Facebook list over 500. In my eyes that's shallow, even dishonest.

I refer to some of my internet acquaintances as "friends" - because I've known them for a while, maybe even met them in person, and got at least an idea of their background story (origin, interests, work, social ideals...).
But, as I said, this has to build over time, it can't be forced.

:)
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~testelse Dec 21, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
Yep I know what you mean.
I knew some people also now for some time of the internet and we are really good friends. But this happened just with one or two. And I will visit one of them this Naw Year. Can't wait to meet her.

But it is sad that no one else said his opinion about this matter.
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:iconjien-chan:
Well, I'm not that well-known on DeviantArt (yet :evillaugh: ), so probably noone saw it.
^^;
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:icontestelse:
~testelse Dec 22, 2011  Hobbyist Photographer
das müssen wir ja mal dann ändern oder :D:D Mit deinen T-Shirts und so ;)
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:iconjien-chan:
Fame!!! òó°
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